Feb 10, 2023·edited Feb 10, 2023Liked by Oliver Alexander
Great read.
Hersh claims the flight that dropped the sonar buoy was several hours before the explosions on the 26th but the first explosion was at 2:00am so any flight must be on the 25th.
In offshore drilling the subsea blow out preventer (BOP) can be controlled at much deeper locations and a more complex set of regulation modes using acoustic signals, than a detonation command.
It would be extremely worrying if whales, man made marine noise, earthquakes etc. could interfere with the well control of the several dozens deep water hydrocarbon wells under construction at any given time.
I choose to believe military technology is minimum at par with commercial offshore drilling.
Regarding Stoltenberg, apparently he was even a US skeptic in his youth:)
"Stoltenberg participated in protest rallies against the U.S. war in Vietnam in the 1970s.[156] In 2011, Stoltenberg said "We sang the chorus, ‘Singing Norway, Norway out of Nato.' It was a hit."[156]"
The main problem with your article is that it is essentially a "he doesn't use the jargon that I would use as someone who knows something about this so it's all made up".
If you've done confirmation of real reports, you would know that you can't analyze things this way. The question you have to ask yourself is: could I imagine a non-technical journalist speaking to a source with actual knowledge of these events writing up their account in this way?
So, like take this section, for example:
"The US Air Force officials reportedly proposed “dropping bombs with delayed fuses that could be set off remotely”. One could write an entire post on the reasons why sounds entirely made up by someone with no real grasp of what that suggestion would actually technically entail."
The actual question is, what would the Air Force suggest and could Hersh have written up what his source told him that they might have proposed in the way that he did?
Because you don't do this type of analysis, the article just doesn't debunk Hersh's and I'm not even convinced that anything in Hersh's article is true. The only really interesting fact in your article is about Jen Stoltenberg, which does decrease the credibility of the article.
There is no slam dunk of Hersh's account of his source in this snow job and it has not addressed actual evidence that support the account of Hersh's source.
The first mistake made by Oliver is to assume Hersh's source had "direct access to every step". So the distinction between Alta class and near equivalent Oksøy-Class mine hunter is trivial and not relevant.
A second mistake made by Oliver is the presumption that any ship in a covert operation would have its Automatic Identification System Switched on.
A third mistake made by Oliver is that any aircraft would have its ADS-B or any other ID system turned on.
A fourth mistake is to introduce irrelevant dive time/decompression information. There is nothing about the dive times and ship involved excludes the dives that would be required.
There is evidence of two aircraft, one of which was a refuelling aircraft. The aircraft that is presumed to have dropped a bouy or otherwise activated the explosives had "rolling codes" and the type and ownership of the aircraft could no be established. There is nothing to rule out a Norwegian P-8 as a completely fitted out P-8 may not have been required.
There was a tracking of two aircraft according to this source on the date and within the time window. It can't be ignored.
There is no mention of the swedish navy movements in Hershes story. There you could have fabricated some story about sending divers from swedish war ships and then the moves toward Kaliningrad was the cover. That could maybe be plausible. But that would also draw attention towards russia.
Evenes is a commercial airport so really hard to operate out of if you’re masking the ADS-B.
The aircraft were grounded in June when this was supposedly planned as the logistics supply hadn’t been sorted out. Was a POL issue as the US navy manual calls for oils and lubricants which aren’t commercially available in Europe and each supply had to be verified.
Great read.
Hersh claims the flight that dropped the sonar buoy was several hours before the explosions on the 26th but the first explosion was at 2:00am so any flight must be on the 25th.
Oh I love a good bullshit teardown, excellent read.
Very pragmatic and convincing analysis.
In offshore drilling the subsea blow out preventer (BOP) can be controlled at much deeper locations and a more complex set of regulation modes using acoustic signals, than a detonation command.
It would be extremely worrying if whales, man made marine noise, earthquakes etc. could interfere with the well control of the several dozens deep water hydrocarbon wells under construction at any given time.
I choose to believe military technology is minimum at par with commercial offshore drilling.
Regarding Stoltenberg, apparently he was even a US skeptic in his youth:)
"Stoltenberg participated in protest rallies against the U.S. war in Vietnam in the 1970s.[156] In 2011, Stoltenberg said "We sang the chorus, ‘Singing Norway, Norway out of Nato.' It was a hit."[156]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Stoltenberg#Controversies
The main problem with your article is that it is essentially a "he doesn't use the jargon that I would use as someone who knows something about this so it's all made up".
If you've done confirmation of real reports, you would know that you can't analyze things this way. The question you have to ask yourself is: could I imagine a non-technical journalist speaking to a source with actual knowledge of these events writing up their account in this way?
So, like take this section, for example:
"The US Air Force officials reportedly proposed “dropping bombs with delayed fuses that could be set off remotely”. One could write an entire post on the reasons why sounds entirely made up by someone with no real grasp of what that suggestion would actually technically entail."
The actual question is, what would the Air Force suggest and could Hersh have written up what his source told him that they might have proposed in the way that he did?
Because you don't do this type of analysis, the article just doesn't debunk Hersh's and I'm not even convinced that anything in Hersh's article is true. The only really interesting fact in your article is about Jen Stoltenberg, which does decrease the credibility of the article.
There is no slam dunk of Hersh's account of his source in this snow job and it has not addressed actual evidence that support the account of Hersh's source.
The first mistake made by Oliver is to assume Hersh's source had "direct access to every step". So the distinction between Alta class and near equivalent Oksøy-Class mine hunter is trivial and not relevant.
A second mistake made by Oliver is the presumption that any ship in a covert operation would have its Automatic Identification System Switched on.
A third mistake made by Oliver is that any aircraft would have its ADS-B or any other ID system turned on.
A fourth mistake is to introduce irrelevant dive time/decompression information. There is nothing about the dive times and ship involved excludes the dives that would be required.
There is evidence of two aircraft, one of which was a refuelling aircraft. The aircraft that is presumed to have dropped a bouy or otherwise activated the explosives had "rolling codes" and the type and ownership of the aircraft could no be established. There is nothing to rule out a Norwegian P-8 as a completely fitted out P-8 may not have been required.
There was a tracking of two aircraft according to this source on the date and within the time window. It can't be ignored.
https://youtu.be/Jfpw9I01J0o?t=770
The rest of Oliver's snow job is subjective or irrelevant drivel.
Your information is lacking enough investigation https://sonar21.com/independent-evidence-confirms-key-part-of-sy-hershs-report-on-the-attack-on-nord-stream-2/
What matters is Jew-run US did it.
An apologist of the empire and her terrorism
your own analysis is littered with faulty assumptions and false extrapolations
There is no mention of the swedish navy movements in Hershes story. There you could have fabricated some story about sending divers from swedish war ships and then the moves toward Kaliningrad was the cover. That could maybe be plausible. But that would also draw attention towards russia.
I understand rigth that the sonarbuoy would have to trigger a timer as the bombs went off at different times? prolly not hard to do but why?
Evenes is a commercial airport so really hard to operate out of if you’re masking the ADS-B.
The aircraft were grounded in June when this was supposedly planned as the logistics supply hadn’t been sorted out. Was a POL issue as the US navy manual calls for oils and lubricants which aren’t commercially available in Europe and each supply had to be verified.
ur doin gods work son
Can I call you Sherlock Clancy? :-) You got a shout out from Military & History on Youtube so I jumped over here to read your article. Epic detail.
Why are lying about who you already decided blew up the pipeline months ago? You’re one of the crackpot “russian blew up their own pipeline” people.
https://twitter.com/oalexanderdk/status/1575074138590306304